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Leo Dion joins me to talk about the apps he's built, including one to help live stream your heart rate, the Nintendo Switch games his family are enjoying, and the debate over whether this is really what it feels like to work from home and how some folks just don't get asynchronous communication.

Susan Boles joins me to talk about how she uses tools like Paperform, Clickup, Zapier, Xero, and more to automate her business and how other small business owners can benefit from experimenting with a bit of automation.